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tautomers : avoid carboxylate tautomers production

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Emilie Pihan
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Dear all,
Using tautomers application, I have seen that in its default mode, if there is a carboxylate function, it generates the two possibilities. Is it possible that it doesn't ? Because when we convert it in mol2 (charges adding), the result is the same (O.co2) and we obtain doublons!
Thanks a lot,
Emilie

Ben Ellingson
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Symmetric molecules

Hi Emilie,

The current version of the tautomers application has a known problem with duplicates that will be fixed in the next version. The current program will generate all tautomers without regard to symmetry, which causes duplicates to be created when it's possible for multiple paths to generate tautomers that can be rotated into each other. The next version of the program will prevent any duplicates from being present in the output set of tautomers.

Best Regards,
Ben

Emilie Pihan
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Program tautomers: date of the new version ??

Hi,
Do you know when the new version of tautomers will appear... because it's a shame to generate all tautomers and have to remove duplicates afterwards (that's take a very long time).
Or do you have an idea how to avoid this generation? Or maybe can I re-use the program FILTER with the option -unique after TAUTOMERS?
Thanks,
Emilie

Emilie Pihan
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Program FILTER remove stereoisomers

Hi,
I have tried to use Filter for removing tautomer duplicates with the option -unique true, and it was successful until I realized that filter removes stereoisomers too :@ in spite of the real specification on C (1 or 2 in sdf file).
Do you have an idea to avoid this?
Thanks a lot.
Emilie

Emilie Pihan
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Thanks

Thanks for your fast reply,
I am waiting for the new version !
Regards,
Emilie

Emilie Pihan
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New version?

Does the new version of tautomers in Quacpac (1.5) solves the problem of duplicates?
Emilie

Ben Ellingson
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Hi Emilie, Yes, we fixed the

Hi Emilie,

Yes, we fixed the duplication problem in QUACPAC 1.5 and now only unique tautomers appear in the output.

Best regards,
Ben

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